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Lateraling To Another Investment Bank? Look Before You Leap

“I’m in the Credit Suisse Tech M&A Group currently but I heard that Goldman TMT is way better and that everyone who works there aces their private equity interviews and gets offers at KKR and Blackstone. How can I transition over to a much better group/bank?”

Every week I get questions like the one above. And my reply is usually the same: don’t bother. In most cases, lateraling is a waste of time and effort. But around the end of their first years in finance, young investment banking analysts everywhere think about making the move.

Bulge Bracket to Bulge Bracket

It doesn’t make a difference whether you’re at Morgan Stanley or JPMorgan; you’ll have access to the same set of recruiters at any bulge bracket.

You could argue that some groups/offices are “better,” and that it’s therefore better to work for the more “prestigious” offices, but it’s still a lot of effort for a marginal gain if you’re going from large bank to large bank.

Reasons to Make the Move

If you can’t stand your investment banking group and want nothing more than to end your misery in a violent way every morning when you wake up, then you might have an actual good reason to make a lateral move to another bank.

Even in this scenario, though, you should confirm there’s nothing you can do to improve your situation – like switching teams or groups – before you decide to swing through the jungle of finance to another bank.

Another reason might be if your bank is collapsing, or your group is collapsing and everyone else is switching banks anyway; in that case you don’t really have any choice.

Issues To Consider First

If you make a lateral move you’ll have to start over at another bank, both literally and figuratively.

Depending on the banks involved, you may be forced to start over as a 1st year Analyst. This “demotion” is more common going from a smaller bank to a larger bank, but the real issue is not the demotion – it’s the loss of time in the recruiting process.

Since private equity firms and hedge funds conduct interviews a year in advance of start dates, you will have to stay in banking for 3 years rather than 2 if you switch to another bank. If you’re a masochist you might want this or you might be fine with it, but most people making the switch don’t realize this and are horrified when it hits them.

In addition to the harm done in terms of recruiting, you’ll also have to build “mind share” with senior bankers once again and prove yourself capable so that you work on deals rather than pitchbooks.

Boutique Or Middle Market To Bulge Bracket

This is the only lateral move that makes sense. While you can get good experience at a smaller bank, you will have better access to recruiters and exit opportunities at bulge brackets.

So if you ended up at a boutique or middle market firm due to economic conditions, because you came into the recruiting process late, or because you made a career change long after graduation, going to a bulge bracket may be a good move.

Just make sure you really want to stay in finance for the long-term. Otherwise, it’s a waste of time and effort because having Goldman Sachs on your resume vs. Piper Jaffray isn’t going to do much for you if you move back home to help out with the family business.

But You Should Still Think Twice

Even if you’re 100% convinced that you should move to another investment bank, I would still urge you to think twice before you do it. Make sure all of the following are true before jumping over to the other side:

  • You are willing to be an investment banking analyst for 3 years rather than the standard 2.
  • You are 100% certain you want to stay in finance for at least another 10 years.
  • If you have a team conflict or can’t stand your current group, there’s nothing that can be done to remedy that at your current bank.

Be Wary Of Headhunters

Recruiters are always looking to make lateral moves happen because they get a commission if they get you to move somewhere else.

So if they’ve told you that the other group you’re considering moving to has Aeron chairs made of gold, exit opportunities beyond your wildest expectations, and yes, even a daily allowance for models and bottles, you should be careful:

You’re probably being sold.

Sure, if you’re interested in moving anyway and you have some good recruiter contacts who can make it happen, go ahead and use them. But if they’re pitching you on moving from Goldman to Morgan or on moving from Gleacher to Revolution Partners, there’s probably something you don’t know.

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  1. Insightful as always. Realistically what are the exit opportunities for candidates with no prior IB experience, but are able to make it into Associate Programs either BB/EB ? For all practical purposes is PE/Hedge Funds ruled out at as Associate level and one has to wait until Director level? To put a fine point, does it make sense to move out as an Associate as potentially that would come with a reduction in pay/title etc.

    1. ??? I’m not sure what you mean. How could you be an Associate at an BB or EB without prior IB experience? Are you asking about the exit opportunities at the Associate level if you do an MBA and use MBA-level recruiting to get in?

      If so, then you still have some of the same exit opportunities as Analysts, but they’re harder to pursue and you have to do more of the legwork yourself.

      1. Apologies I wasn’t clear. Yes it was the latter. Thank you.

  2. Hi Brian,

    I work at a middle market bank in a major industry hub that is not New York. I’m coming up on a year as a first year analyst and I wanted to pick your brain about what the lateral interviewing process is like.

    A little more background, I work on a very lean team and am worried that I’m not going to progress and gain the critical skills commonly associated with someone who has survived three years as an investment banking analyst. I think that’s a function of a couple things: deal flow (we typically lead 2-3 deals a year through the entire deal process between ~$50 – $500MM); division of work (the VP knocks out most of the modeling, while I build slides for the pitch/CIM); and industry dynamics (our industry sub sector trades at 5.0x-6.0x, while other other sub sectors in the industry trade at 10x-12x, and hence has more M&A activity). I’m especially worried that I’m not getting enough modeling exposure, and will get torn apart in a lateral interview. I obviously was able to learn the technicals given that I landed a FT analyst position, and passed the 79, but the expectations regarding modeling are obviously much higher once you’ve been in the industry for year/year-and-a-half. I’ve been walking through online modeling courses in my free time to try and catch up and just be a more capable, and better overall analyst.

    With all of that being said I think it’s time for me to make a move within the next 6 months. I’m curious to hear your thoughts on expected modeling proficiency level for an analyst trying to lateral. I’ve spoken to others who have been in a similar position as me, and have heard a wide spectrum of answers.

    Any advice or insight would be greatly appreciated.

    1. They are going to focus extensively on your deals, and they could easily give you some type of modeling test, likely a 3-statement model or LBO model (which is really just a 3-statement model with a few additions).

      If you haven’t gained enough modeling/valuation experience in your current role, then you should look at the deals you worked on, build your own models for them in your downtime, and then speak to them in interviews. Then, compare them to the actual models the VP built. There is no other way to learn and be prepared. And no one can really say who did what in the context of an interview, so you have to go with this approach and act like you were more involved with modeling than you were.

      Passing these types of modeling tests is not rocket science because IB-style models can only get so complicated. So it’s really just practice, practice, practice until you get fast enough to pass the tests easily.

  3. Have BB (GS/JPM/MS) and EB Summer offers- taking the BB as I want to ensure I have the option to move out of finance (if banking/finance isn’t for me).

    If I decide banking is for me, how would lateraling to an EB work? promotion/culture as well as more meaningful work at junior levels obviously a selling point in addition to compensation. At what level should this occur- obviously moving the earlier is better but Associate? VP? or during your analyst years?

    1. It would be better to move over as an Analyst, if possible, because EBs prefer to hire people who are relatively new and “train them” in their mindset and work style, which is somewhat different from how the bulge brackets operate. You could still move over as an Associate or VP, but the path of least resistance is to do it after 1-2 years as an Analyst. And, obviously, be sure you want to stay in IB for the long term because there’s no point doing this if you just want to apply for PE/HF/other buy-side roles.

  4. Hi Brian / M&I,

    I am currently a 1st yr associate at an IBAB in structured equity / equity-linked capital markets (working with corps / spnsrs) .

    Currently considering a move to the M&A / coverage side and am wondering if its possible 3-4 years out of school (still only 24-25 y/o – young for class year) w/o an MBA, given time out of school? From a semi-target, willing to take cut in title to 2nd/3rd yr analyst, and would be looking at reputable MM shops. Will have to beef up on accounting / modeling skills a bit – will be sure to download the course.


    1. I think you can do it, but you’re going to need a really good answer to the “Why did you not want to move into M&A or coverage until now?” question, and I don’t know what that answer is. I’m not sure you necessarily need to target smaller firms – it’s worth at least checking on an internal transfer first.

  5. Have an offer from Evercore Analyst vs GS Summer, both London… Would it make sense to move from Evercore to GS/MS/JPM after a year, in terms of career progression and exit opps?

    1. I don’t think so unless you want to move out of the finance industry and work at a normal company.

  6. Hi! I was wondering if future employers would look down on lateraling since it looks like I’m disloyal. Also, I think it may hurt relationships with the people in my bank, not necessarily the analysts, but the higher ups. Do you think these are concerns? Looking to lateral

    1. Depends on how you do it and the time frame… if you leave after 2 months, yes, it will look bad. If you leave after 1 year, it’s fine. There’s massive turnover in finance with people always moving around, so it’s not particularly unusual to do this.

  7. Brian,

    I got an offer at a no-name Boutique Investment Bank in Mexico. I am currently working at a well-known company in the Corporate Development area doing some M&A and Strategic Planning stuff.

    My goal is to get an offer at a prestige Boutique IB or a BB, and although I’ve been through some recruitment process, at the end I don’t get the offer.

    What are your suggestions regarding the no-name job offer?


    1. If your long-term goal is investment banking or private equity, you should probably take the offer. It would be more helpful if you could apply to jobs in larger markets, such as the U.S. or U.K. It’s tougher to win offers at large banks in Mexico because the market is smaller and they like making you complete extended internships first.

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    Brian Bonilla

    Hi Brian,

    If you are a sophomore interning at a BB that’s not a GS/MS/JPM, is it worth switching to a GS/MS/JPM for the following summer?

    I heard there are some benefits to returning after getting along with the group well. I heard that if you have more experience as an intern in a group if you return, you get staffed on better deals? Is this true?

    Since a lot of people will be leaving by the time I even come back, I was wondering about how true this may be because if it isn’t, then the incentive of returning doesn’t seem as high.

    1. That type of jump is generally not worth it unless you can do so very easily, i.e. they come to you through accelerated recruiting and you don’t have to do much networking. There are some benefits to staying at your current bank, but the biggest issue is that you won’t necessarily get much better results at the top 3 banks because a lot of it comes down to your group and how headhunters perceive it.

      1. Hi Brian,

        With that in mind, would it be best to just focus on networking with the top groups at my firm for the following summer?
        Especially because I got placed into a group that doesn’t get much headhunter attention.

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    Having tried to break into RE PE and not having had much success, would it be possible to lateral to M&A after two years of REIB? With PE being the final goal (corporate or REPE)

    1. Yes, but two years in REIB is probably too long – better to stay for around a year, move to M&A or a more generalist industry group, and then move into PE due to the speed of the recruiting process and how far in advance it now starts (at least in NY, though it is also moving up in other regions).

  10. Just as a general rule when it comes to lateraling, say from MM to BB, would you guys say it is better to do after completing the junior year internship and going straight for the BB full-time recruitment, or is it better to go full-time at MM and then try to lateral say after a year? Thanks!

    1. It’s always better to move over sooner rather than later, so if you can do so after your internship by going through accelerated recruiting, do so then. If you can’t do that or there isn’t much accelerated recruiting or the market is bad, work full-time for a year and then move over.

  11. Hi!
    A junior from top 5 college with 3.7 GPA. Will be interning at a top In-Between-a-Banks (IBABs) in NYC this summer, what’s the chance of getting into elite boutiques or BB (GS JPM MS) for full time? Don’t really have much previous finance or IB experience and school has limited resources for studying corporate finance. If it’s possible to move, how should I prepare for the full time interview in terms of technicals? Would Reading Investment Banking by Rosenbaum and practicing building models help?

    1. You have a decent shot at moving to a larger bank if you start early enough (i.e., make sure you’re hooked into the accelerated recruiting process before you set foot in the office). Obviously I’m biased, but I believe our Interview Guide goes beyond anything else in terms of technical prep… almost 700 pages with annotated diagrams, sample models, etc., and it has more details than any book I’ve seen. But you will need to practice building some models as well, as that’s the only way to really master the concepts.

  12. Completely dependent on headcount and how the interns perform… it’s possible, but more so if the deal market is better by then.

  13. Hi NIcole, I am currently in a lower-MM European corporate bank in leveraged finance in London. I’m on the analyst programme and coming to the end of my first year. I would like to move to a bigger bank to have a better shot at exit opps / MBA at the end of the 3 years. My network is pretty small within the large European/American investment banks but I went to a pretty decent redbrick University in England. What would your suggestion be in terms of when to start looking and who to contact (e.g. recruiters / cold messaging alumni / job boards etc.) Many thanks.

    1. As soon as possible. Don’t bother with recruiters or job boards – go through alumni, and cold email Group Heads at larger banks to maximize your chances.

  14. What are your thoughts on how to lateral from a boutique/mm (NY) to a BB in a different state? And, if successful, how long into your first year should you be before you make the official move?

    1. It may or may not be a good move depending on your goals (e.g., if you want to work in PE it may be a bad idea because there’s such a high concentration of firms in NYC and lower numbers elsewhere). You should try to move right after your first year ends so you can collect your bonus and leave (or do so whenever you get your bonus since some Analysts are now paid in Jan/Feb).

      1. When do you think I should start putting feelers out? I know that things happen pretty quickly, and I would like to spend a full year where I’m starting, but also don’t want to miss out on opportunity.

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          M&I - Nicole

          I’d start putting feelers out now. You don’t have to be blatant about this. However, you can be discrete and talk to a few people first to connect and understand more about what they do, and they build on the connections.

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    Alex Griggs

    JPM Capital Markets (consumer & retail) to GS IBD (Healthcare / Consumer&Retail)? I’m 8 months into the capital markets job, is it worth it? On the one hand would get fantastic experience in IBD rather than having to wait and would likely place well, on the other hand don’t want to burn bridges and realize an 8 month spot on the resume looks questionable. Would likely do a third year in JPM IBD if I were to stay. Thank you for any advice.

    1. I don’t think there’s a big enough difference there to make it worthwhile to accept an 8-month spot. If you could stay for a year and then move over, it might look more standard and would raise fewer questions.

  16. About to be senior at Midwestern State school (IN, WI, MN, IA, IL). 3.3 gpa. Econ major
    Finished unpaid internship in NY at an emerging markets boutique IB this summer, In addition to month long modeling bootcamp. Received offer, but want to move to bigger firm and in midwestern city (Chicago, mpls, milwaukee)
    Networked heavily (still am), but having doubts on ability to go to BBs, Elite boutiques, or MM firms or even some regional boutiques. What should the be the best approach come FT recruiting? Where should my focus be?
    Is my chance with a brand name bank slim to none?

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      M&I - Nicole

      I’d focus on firms in Chicago and connect with your alum in the area. I’d also reach out to people via LinkedIn. In terms of your focus, perhaps boutique/middle market firms in Chicago maybe an option, and then you can move to a BB from there.

  17. I am an Ivy League graduate (’13)/American citizen who got an internship at a bulge bracket investment bank for the summer in London. However, I want to transfer back to NY asap. What’s the best way to go about this?
    Obviously, I would have to get a return offer first. (Right?)
    Since I’m already past the OCR phase, how would I reach out to other firms – I don’t mind working at another bank.
    Furthermore, I want to switch to PE and their recruiting starts in my first year.

    1. Heard it’s really hard to get into PE in London so want to be back in NYC asap

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      M&I - Nicole

      Yes, having a return offer would be best. Are you an American citizen? If you aren’t then it can be more challenging to work in America unless you can do an internal transfer. Otherwise I’d just set up meetings and potential interviews with people in NY and fly down there to build your connections. I’d find a role in NY first before you consider moving to PE

      1. yes I am an American citizen
        When/how should I reach out to NY connections? What am I hoping they would do exactly? This bit is kind of fussy

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          M&I - Nicole

          This article should help you: You should start reaching out to them as soon as you have a decent LinkedIn profile. I’d set up a brief 15-min chat with them and ask them re. their experiences, etc.

  18. Hi M&A, thanks for the post. What is your perspective on incoming full time analysts who would like to end up in a traditional coverage group (think TMT, Consumer etc) but have instead been placed in a non-traditional IBD group during sell days, (ie PFG) at a BB. The stuff one learns in these groups appears to be very different and so are the exit opps. Would you say this would be an instance where one should seek to lateral/switch groups if one is looking for traditional exits such as PE/Corporate/Hedge Funds?

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      M&I - Nicole

      Yes I’d try to lateral/switch in a year if possible.

  19. What would be some good reasons for moving from a MM local shop to a BB shop that I could use during interviews without insinuating that I plan on exiting after the 2 year stint?

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      M&I - Nicole

      You are interested in working at a more established firm doing “bigger” transactions; you like the culture at the BB after speaking with XXYY at the firm…

  20. To clarify, I meant sector teams such as TMT offering M&A, equity and debt capital offerings, syndicated loans and structured products.

  21. Yes. Since the sector teams do equity and debt capital offerings, and syndicated loans etc., if they express concern about my lack of experience in those areas, what is the best way for me to answer such a question during interview?

  22. Hi,

    I worked at a boutique M&A advisor in Europe for about 2 years and am now interviewing at banks in Asia. One of the concerns the sector teams I met was that I did not have much experience in equity / debt advisory as I worked at a pure M&A advisor. How could I position myself to be an attractive candidate in this case?



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      M&I - Nicole

      Presume you’re talking about equity/debt capital markets?

  23. I have an interview for Investor Relations at a Hedge Fund in NYC. What are the exit ops for this? Could I get into a top 10 MBA program with this on my resume?

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      M&I - Nicole

      Exit Opportunities: If you have access to investors, you can always join another HF, or be involved in a fundraising role. This experience will be helpful if you want to break into a top MBA program, though I can’t say that you’ll be able to get into a top 10 MBA program with this alone on your resume. Your GMAT, essays etc are useful too

  24. Hi,

    I am just curious if you can list me the top 10 investment banking groups to work for in the US.

    Thank you very much.

    1. We don’t rank banks, but you can get an idea of the different firms out there here:

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    Taraz Dearmont

    What do you think about trying to change groups after your summer internship?

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      M&I - Nicole

      Yes do that if you have the opportunity to do so

  26. I assume the same principle applies in London (correct me if I’m wrong?)

    Having said that, would I be right in assuming that it is also possible to move to another bank by doing an MBA after your years as an analyst and *then* moving to another bank?

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      M&I - Nicole

      Yes. Yes.

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    James Richards

    I am currently a senior and have an offer from UBS and from a MM bank.

    I like UBS but given all the negative publicity about them, including their recent layoff of analysts, I am curious if it is still considered a legitimate position in the world of IB especially if I am looking to go into PE.

    If accepted, is it worthwhile for me to lateral to a different BB or is it not worth the effort?


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      M&I - Nicole

      You may want to raise more questions to the two teams and figure out what you’ll be doing there, what the team’s growth plans are etc – try to ask more information and see which team you think fits you better (this you should rely on your intuition)

      Yes, it is still legit.

      I think you should still network with other banks and check out other opportunities. Hard to say if its worthwhile or not – You haven’t even started the job yet!

  28. Hi,

    I am the same person as above. If I decide to lateral after 6 months to 1 year and is asked why I want to change jobs, ia it preferable to say:
    1. I want to experience more complex deals/a wider range of deals etc. types of standard answers. OR
    2. I feel I am underpaid for the work I do.
    Or both?

    Also, in general, when you lateral, how many references do they ask for, since you can’t give them a reference from the firm you are still working at?

    1. Definitely #1. #2 is not a good idea to mention. They usually don’t ask for references and if they do, just refer them to previous jobs or internships.

  29. Hi,

    Is a $40,000 base from a no-name boutique in a major city (think NY) ridiculously low? I know the economy is going downhill nowadays. Should I go in for the experience and try to lateral after a few months?

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      M&I - Nicole

      Yes very low. However, if you have no experience and this is the only way for you to break into finance, take it

      1. Will this low salary count against me for my next job since recruiters always ask for current salary? I am worried that potential employers might see that I am only worth $40k and refuse to offer me market rate (gasp!)…

        1. It may, but it beats the other option of not having an offer at all. And you can always fudge your salary #’s, not get specific, etc… no reason to ever give a salary even if they ask for it, actually.

          1. If you fudge your salary’s numbers, would they find out via background/reference checks (outside the US for my case)?

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            M&I - Nicole

            Yes they can find out via background/ref check

  30. Hey Brian,

    I graduated in may and started as an ibd analyst in nyc at an international, non-BB firm (macquarie, rbs, bnp, etc). I ultimately want to move to pe.

    After training, I was placed in a capital markets group (dcm/ecm). It def wasn’t one of my top choices, but I ended up there b/c a fellow alumni put me as their top choice.

    I originally planned to stick it out a year and learn as much as poss, but I am disappointed to not be learning any financial modeling or other relevant skills.

    Would you recommend I stay a full year? Or try to network to another firm/group?

    Thanks in advance.


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      M&I - Nicole

      Network as much as you can internally & externally in the meantime – you never know. If an opportunity comes up, move. If not, stay.

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    I’m in a very interesting situation. I am about 2 months into my boutique ib analyst job; it’s a no-name boutique. I am going to be in Finance for the rest of my life so I took this position knowing that I will only be getting a stipend as a salary and a bonus for every deal that gets closed that I work on. My motivation and determination is being killed. I am continually networking but I wanted to know how long should I wait until I aggressively try and lateral to a prestigious boutique or BB?

    Thanks for the help.

    1. I would only wait a few months and then go for it… maybe after 6 months or so you could get attention from bigger banks.

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    1st year Cityboy

    Hi Brian,

    Firstly, thank you for all the effort you put into this website – it really help us a lot!

    Secondly, I am starting as a 1st year IBD analyst with a big international bank (yet not BB, think BNP, HSBC, etc.) in London. I come from Central and Eastern Europe region, so for me it is a big leap in my career. Apart from the fact, as I have now heard, that they pay much less than BB, is there that huge difference in exit opportunity/ prestige that I should consider moving to a BB after my first year? I consider myself quite ambitious and I am not sure if my bank is the right place for me.

    Thank you!

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      M&I - Nicole

      Yes there is a difference in terms of exit opportunities/prestige. However, make the most out of what you have, and try to network as much as you can to land a job in a BB

  33. Any issues with trying to lateral 6 months into your first year? I’ve learned a good bit at my current firm and like the people/culture but am very worried about exit ops, particularly because recruiting is done privately at my bank (so MDs and VPs may not actively push my name out) and I have yet to close a deal (thus making it very difficult to compete with BB analysts with 2-3 huge deals on their resume).

    Would you advise against this? Should I just stick it out for at least a year before pursuing other options? If opportunities exist, I’d gladly take them – just worried that this might come off as a commitment issue.


    1. As a follow up, my ultimate goal is to get placed at a megafund, so timing (now vs. 6 months from now) is the big question here, not whether I should lateral to a BB in the first place.


      1. I still would not worry, if you have the better opportunity you should take it.

    2. Not really, if the opportunity is there you can take it.

  34. How about lateral moves internationally? Preferably moving to a country where the average salaries would be larger. As an example, we could say being an analyst at a Boutique in Canada, would it be realistic to make a move to MM or even BB in the US?

    1. The US is difficult due to visa issues. For other countries you need to have some type of network there and/or go visit in-person first to establish relationships… otherwise it’s almost impossible if no one knows you.

  35. I’m currently interning at a boutique until the end of December but feel like I would like being at another bank a lot more. My bank is super small and kind of a dump. I graduated in May and this 3 month internship I’m doing right now is my only investment banking experience. Do you think I will be able to shift to another firm in January or should I stick it out here?

    I’m from a state university but graduated at the top of my class.

    1. You might be able to move to a better-known MM or boutique bank since having any kind of experience will help you. But you will have to be quite aggressive since other people have full-time (not internship) experience.

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    French student

    My question is not directly related to the current topic, but I can’t find a less inappropriate one.

    I’m currently preparing a Master in Finance in France but I expect, for personal reasons, to work abroad in a few years. Even if my university is among the best in France, its reputation is – except in French speaking countries and some banks in London – near 0 elsewhere.

    My question is : should I aim to start in a French IB like BNP Paribas in order to “sell the French culture” during transition-interviews, or, start in a bulge bracket IB in order to take a first step towards what will most likely be my employer once I will move from Paris?

    (if it can direct your answer, know that in 2009 JP was #1 in France for M&A, GS #2, and the French BNP #3)

    1. I would go for a bulge bracket since they tend to have more of a global presence; BNP is well-known but banks like JPM, GS, and so on have more of a presence in most countries.

  37. Hi, you said you can move via friends at other banks. I know people at all banks and all of them are happy to make it work but simply sending CV to the HR doesn’t seem to work, any views on how to make it work?

    1. You need to get them to give you a referral to a real senior banker and send your resume to them as opposed to HR

  38. Similar question.

    I work at a very top mm shop in m&a. I am not interested in working at a mega fund. I would like to work at a mm pe fund pre-mba. I am not very interested in hedge funds (at least not yet). I actually use to be very interested in strategy consulting but I felt like banking would be a better quantitative base. So far, thus is true, though I would like to be more strategy components of a deal. Someday I would like to have a balance between money, life, family.

    Could you advise me on my options? Stay or lateral to BB?, Stay and recruit for mm pe? (is that even possible, or would lower BB take all the spots?) ….. be a ski bum?

    1. I would say just go for the MM PE shops right now… no reason to move to a large bank unless you want to go to a mega-fund. You can easily get access to recruiters via friends, contact them yourself, etc. and if they are impressed they can help.

  39. Would it be worthwhile then to lateral from a decent MM place to a BB solely for the improved exit options? Especially if you like your team at your current firm and are happy there? Reading this article it seems your answer would be no but I want to get a good buy side job eventually and it seems that all the good HFs and PE funds seem to only recruit from BBs. Any thoughts would be welcome.


    1. If you want to move to a top PE/HF then yes it’s worth it. If you value your work environment, co-workers, and maintaining your sanity over brand-name, though, probably not.

  40. Just wondering if you had any color on what is the actual process after securing a lateral offer?

    1. There’s not much to it… you decide on a start date, and then leave your bank and move to another one. Sometimes they give you a week or two of vacation in between.

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    M&I, isn’t it logical to make the lateral move to a better group at a better bank, even though they are all BBs, so that one can get a much better chance to land a pre-MBA PE job? Or are you saying that one will have equal chances for the exit ops working at any BB groups?

    1. I’m saying that:

      1) It makes a marginal difference at best what your pre-MBA PE job was. Business schools put everyone from finance in the same category.

      2) Your chances from different BB groups are not significantly different – not enough to actually make the jump in 90% of cases (exceptions may apply depending on how bad your current group is).

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    To avoid being “caught” and regarding the confidentality issue, should one apply with the presently employer firm name blanked / crossed out?

    How should one apply? …The normal way, with the present employer firm name shown?

    1. You have to leave in your current name or no one will take you seriously – just make sure the distribution is not too wide.

  43. You mention here what one should consider before making the move, but you don’t mention how to go about doing it. BB to BB — headhunters or networking? Do banks have recruiters who only deal with laterals at the analyst/associate level? If so, how do you find them and submit your resume? Would you mind explaining how this is actually done and how it can be done without being “caught” by the group you currently work for?

    1. You can really do either – I would only go through a headhunter if you don’t know anyone at the bank you’re moving to. Most of my friends who have lateraled have done it via networking since they knew people wherever they were moving.

      There are no lateral-specific recruiters at banks – recruiters handle everyone, whether new hire out of college or lateral from elsewhere. They don’t openly advertise their contact information, so best to go through a friend or headhunter.

      In terms of not being “caught,” there’s always a risk, but the best advice I can give is to avoid telling anyone at your current bank what you’re doing. No matter how much you think you trust them, don’t say anything because it WILL get out. If no one at your current bank knows, there’s not much risk.

  44. Top Wall Street & Bank Traders~!

    what do you think about the list/rankings? or maybe you’ve seen it before?

    1. Ikemen: very interesting list. I’ve seen variations of it before. I’m not into ranking banks/people too much, but it’s interesting to see just how much all these guys make.

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