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Lateral Hiring 101: How to Look Before You Leap, and Then How to Make the Leap

Lateral Hiring 101: How to Look Before You Leap, and Then How to Make the Leap“Make mistakes of ambition and not mistakes of sloth. Develop the strength to do bold things, not the strength to suffer.”

-Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince

Except with lateral hiring – where “mistakes of ambition” are sometimes just not worth it.

Look Before You Leap: Should You Do It At All?

This is the first question you need to ask yourself. I get about 10 emails per week saying the following:

“I’m set to work at Deutsche Bank / Credit Suisse / JP Morgan / UBS next year and feel like a failure because I did not get an offer at GS or MS. To improve my self esteem and get better exit opportunities, I want to make a lateral move to a better bank 2 years from now. How can I do this?”

This is a flawed plan for at least 2 reasons:

  1. You won’t necessarily have access to “better” exit opportunities at the top 2 firms – in fact you may be worse off.
  2. Once you’ve been working for a year, the “prestige” of your firm will be the last thing on your mind – getting more than 2 hours of sleep per night will be priority #1.

There are only a few good reasons to make the move:

New Geographies

It’s difficult to move internally unless you know someone in the location you’re interested in – but if you know someone at a different firm in the location you’re interested in, it may be easier to move there.

It’s especially helpful if you’re trying to move to New York/London from elsewhere, or vice versa.

Your Group Makes You Want to Kill Yourself

There are some groups (and jobs) that are “beyond repair.”

Trying to improve them would be like trying to remove a tumor by applying band-aids: it might look better for awhile, but you’re still going to die.

If you have violent thoughts every moment of the day and fantasize about beheading your MD, it might be time to move on.

Unknown Boutique to Better-Known Boutique / Middle-Market Firm

Regional boutiques are great for getting experience and getting your foot in the door, but they’re not great for finding exit opportunities.

You’ll have much better access to recruiters at well-known boutiques and middle-market firms, and you’ll have access to more co-workers and “alumni.”

Luckily, this type of move is one of the easiest and most useful to make of the possibilities on this list.

Boutique / Middle-Market Firm to Bulge Bracket

Similar to the move above, you’ll get better access to recruiters and large-cap PE firms and hedge funds if you go to a bulge bracket.

Surprisingly, this move makes less of a difference than going from unknown regional boutique to better-known boutique – there you’re going from “almost nothing” to “something,” whereas here it’s just “something” to “something better.”

So Why Not a “Lower” Bulge Bracket to GS/MS?

“I’ll have a much better chance of getting into KKR / Blackstone / TPG because I looked on their website / asked around and saw that they hired FOUR bankers from GS but only ONE from my bank! My chances are 4x higher there!”

But this reasoning is flawed. All these firms hire very few people to begin with – and yes, they might hire “more” from GS/MS but there are also more people from GS/MS applying in the first place.

And they don’t necessarily have a “preference” for certain banks/groups – they want the strongest Analysts overall.

Maybe you have slightly higher “chances” at the top places, but the marginal benefit is not worth pissing off everyone at your current bank, losing potential references, and then having to wait another year for buy-side recruiting.

How to Make the Leap

Once you’ve looked, here’s how you leap.


Wait until near the end of your first year before contacting recruiters and your friends elsewhere, for 3 reasons:

  1. Even if bonuses suck, you still want to get your money before leaping away.
  2. Right after year-end bonuses, a lot of Analysts leave and banks scramble around to find new, experienced people.
  3. You won’t look too impressive with less than a year of experience and no solid transactions to speak of.

You probably want to start this process 2-3 months before the end of your first year – that way you’ll have time to make a good impression and you’ll be on their mind should they suddenly need someone else.

How to Do It

You have 3 routes to getting interviews at another bank:

  1. Headhunters
  2. Friends
  3. Alumni / Referrals

In theory, headhunters should be a good way to do this: they should want to help you out because they get a commission if they place you.

But in practice, large banks don’t rely on headhunters too much – they’re more common on the buy-side, where companies are smaller and where HR departments are non-existent.

So your best bet is to go through friends at other banks, or to go 1 degree further out and use alumni or get referrals via anyone else you know.

Rather than emailing them, call first (assuming you know them decently) and start off by asking what they’ve been up to, talking about recent events, then casually bring it up and say, “By the way, you know if your group is looking for anyone new right now?”

Follow-up is essential in this situation because your own fate is at the bottom of any other banker’s priority list, even if you’re “friends” with them. You need to be more persistent than usual and keep calling them until they outright say, “No, sorry, I really can’t help you at all.”

What If You Don’t Know Anyone At Other Banks?

Your next best bet is to ask around and get referrals from friends, or to go to your alumni directory and see what that turns up.

Cold-calling can work but it’s not the best move – it’s not effective at large banks, and it works better for undergraduates and recent graduates as opposed to full-time bankers.

You could also try getting in touch with HR or recruiters at banks if you really don’t know anyone else.

One advantage of HR: they’ll know with more certainty whether or not the group is hiring. The disadvantage is that they won’t “go to bat for you” in the same way that real bankers would.

You could also try looking online and consider sites like Doostang if you’re coming from a top school and have a solid resume with at least a year of work experience – but don’t rely on this, because talking to people always trumps applying online.

Keeping It Confidential

You might be wondering how you can prevent word of your planned move from leaking.

Should you use fake names on your resume? Set up a wire tap to monitor all communications? Have Chloe monitor conversations, email, and IM at other banks?

The short answer: no matter what you do, people will find out what you’re doing. Rather than worrying about that, just avoid telling others – even “trusted” friends – what you’re doing and use your personal email account if at all possible.

Oh, and don’t use fake names for companies on your resume or you will not get any interviews.

The Market

Lateral hiring is even more sensitive to market conditions than normal hiring. Banks always need a certain number of new 1st Year Analysts each year – but whether they need more than they planned for depends on deal flow.

When we’re in a bubble, hopping around is common and relatively easy – but in leaner times, large banks don’t do much lateral hiring unless someone happens to leave unexpectedly.

Lateral Hiring for Associates

For Associates the process is tougher and more selective because fewer people leave unexpectedly – and banks hire fewer Associates to begin with.

The process isn’t much different from what Analysts would go through, but the odds of success are lower and firms make fewer lateral hires all around.

At this level it’s almost pointless to bother with cold-calling or applying online: you really need a friend or referral to the group you’re interested in.

1st Year vs. 2nd Year

This is more applicable for Analysts making the move, but some banks may “demote” you and make you a 1st Year Analyst once again. This is common when you’re making a “big move” – say from an unknown boutique to Goldman Sachs – and less so if you’re jumping from one bulge bracket to another.

You have no leverage to “persuade” them otherwise, but it also doesn’t matter much: no matter what your title is on paper, the real downside to making a lateral move is that you need to wait another year for buy-side recruiting.

The Interviews

If you’re interviewing as a potential lateral hire, interviewers will focus more on your deal experience and on more advanced technical questions than they would for undergraduates/MBAs.

Case studies, modeling tests, and other types of assessments are all possible – but they’re less common in North America compared to other regions.

They’re more like private equity interviews than standard banking ones, so make sure you know how to write about your deals, how to talk about your deals, and how to dominate your case studies.

You also need good answers to the “Why us?” question and you need evidence that you’re sticking around in finance for the long-term – otherwise, why else would you want to make the move?

Ready, Fire, Aim

Before making the leap, you need to spend most of your time thinking about whether or not a lateral move makes sense – because for most bankers it doesn’t.

But if you’ve looked and decided to make the leap, now you know how to do it.

M&I - Brian

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Brian DeChesare is the Founder of Mergers & Inquisitions and Breaking Into Wall Street. In his spare time, he enjoys memorizing obscure Excel functions, editing resumes, obsessing over TV shows, traveling like a drug dealer, and defeating Sauron.

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  1. What if your company blocks all other email sites at work (Gmail, etc)? Is it ok to use company email for networking, or is there a real risk of getting caught by IT or something?

    1. I would strongly recommend against using the company email for networking. Just use a personal phone or other mobile device on data rather than wi-fi so they can’t block you or track it… or use a VPN to get around it if necessary.

  2. Hi Brian,

    Was wondering what level you considered Citizens Bank in Boston and in particular their Lev Fin Group.

    1. Sorry, don’t know enough to have an opinion. It seems like a fairly good group from quick searches, but I don’t know about the exit opportunities, and I assume they’re not as good as the ones from BB banks.

  3. Hi Brian, thanks for taking the time to read this just had a question. I am over a year and a half out of school and have been doing IB at a MM banksince graduation. I want to lateral to a BB. Is the GPA still necessary to include on the resume (it wasn’t that good, just networked like hell in college to get interviews)

    Thank you!

    1. Yes, I think you still need to include your GPA because it could still come up in interviews. But you could move the entire Education section to the bottom of your resume so it’s less prominent.

  4. Hi,

    Is there an article that covers the move from a junior year S&T internship to the IB wing of the same bank?


  5. I’m interested in lateraling to a different bank, but don’t think they have an application site. Should I send an email about my interest? and how should I phrase it?

    1. Yes, just email them. Find someone at the bank on LinkedIn, use their name to construct an email address, and then email the person. See our templates:

  6. Hi Brian,

    Thanks for writing this article – it is really informative.

    I am currently an intern at a regional boutique in Europe, where I have received a return offer to start immediately after my internship, but I am looking to move to a larger bank. Would my chances be larger if I try to move laterally as an intern or after my first year as an analyst?

    Looking forward to your response.

    1. Probably after your first year as an analyst, but it depends a bit on the timing. It can be difficult to find another offer when everyone has finished internships and is looking to move elsewhere because everyone else is doing the same thing.

  7. Hi Brian,
    If I’m working at a MM bank (Stifel/Piper/etc), would lateraling to a higher tier MM (Jefferies/Houlihan/William Blair) be worth it if the goal is to jump to PE?

    1. Maybe, yes, but I don’t know if it would make a huge difference… it is still pretty tough to get into PE from MM banks in general. But yes, you would have a better shot at smaller PE funds if you were at a slightly higher-ranking MM bank.

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    Johan Botha

    Hi Brian,

    Is it worth lateraling from a top BB regional office to a lower BB or EB in NYC? Also, I have noticed there are some regional offices that traditionally have better exits than mine (I haven’t really seen any MF exits from my group).


    1. Potentially, yes, simply because you’ll get more and better opportunities when you’re in NYC. But it also depends a bit on which bank to which other bank… I probably wouldn’t go from GS to UBS or DB, for example.

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        Johan Botha

        How about something in the range of JP/MS to CS/Barclays NYC?

        1. Yes, potentially, assuming the exit opportunities really are better.

  9. Hi – coming from a European bank in NYC (think Soc Gen, ING, Credit Ag) in a strong group (think Lev Fin, Sponsors, M&A) would you recommend to lateral to a BB for the sake of PE recruitment opportunities? In general, it would be great if you could offer an article on NYC based European IB in regards to experience, reputation, exit opps, etc. Thanks!

    1. Yes, if you’re set on PE, it would probably make sense to move to a U.S.-based bulge-bracket or elite-boutique bank instead. The issue with the banks you mentioned isn’t so much that they’re European but that they’re “In-Between-a-Banks” – neither boutiques nor bulge brackets, but somewhere in between, which can limit your opportunities. The same applies to North American banks like Wells Fargo and RBC (see:

      We cover different types of banks in that article. We’re not going to write a separate article on European banks in NYC because there’s no need – it’s a simple answer: “European banks and smaller banks in general offer worse access to PE than BB and EB banks in the U.S. If you want NY or other U.S.-based PE roles, move to a U.S.-based BB or EB.”

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    Hi Brian,

    Interned at a non-traditional group in an in between a bank in NYC and have the opportunity to join a top bank (GS/MS/Moelis, etc) out in LA for a generalist opportunity (M&A). If end goal is PE (ideally in NYC), would it be wise to take it? Assuming it would be slightly more difficult to transition back but still possible? Experience would be far better and relevant than staying at IBAB.

    1. Yes, I would take this offer. LA is not as good for PE exits due to fewer firms, but the better firm reputation outweighs that. And you could transition back to NYC, but it would be more difficult than staying on the west coast.

  11. If I were to accept an Associate offer (non-MBA hire) would I still receive the standard MBA signing bonus? This would be for a top MM bank for reference.

    1. So, they’re hiring you out of another full-time job you currently have? If so, probably not because these signing bonuses are intended for students just out of school. But you never know, it depends a bit on the firm and group.

  12. Hello,

    Thanks for the article! Is it worth it to try to move from an EB (EVC/LAZ) to a top BB (MS/GS)?

    Thank you!

    1. Probably not, unless you want to move outside of finance completely for your exit, in which case the brand names of the top BBs will make a difference. But if you’re leaving finance anyway, it seems kind of pointless to move around within finance first…

  13. Hi Brian, thanks for the article. I’m currently a treasury analyst in a mega fund in Asia (think KKR, Carlyle) with no extensive deal experience and am considering lateraling into a MM/boutique investment banking. Do you think I might have a chance, given that I’ve been learning modelling on my own and hopefully be able to leverage off the brand name?

    1. Potentially, yes, but it depends on how long you’ve been there… 1-2 years or less, maybe, but longer than that and you might need another degree or steppingstone role to move over.

  14. Hi Brian / Nicole,

    I’ve been at an unknown MM boutique in Canada for almost two years now, and am looking to transition to IBD within one of the Big 5 Canadian banks. The moves you describe above are no-name boutique > known boutique and known boutique > BB. The move I’m targeting is unknown boutique > Canadian BB. Is this leap too large to make?

    Thanks in advance.

    1. Potentially you could do it, but it’s quite difficult in Canada because the market is so small. Your chances would be better if you could consider the U.S., U.K., or other larger markets outside of Canada.

  15. Hi Brian,

    I was hired as an associate in a lower middle market bank after 2 years in credit research and am thinking about moving to an EB or BB. When should I start thinking about moving?



    1. Ideally around a year into the role because it only gets harder to move over the longer you stay there. And a year should be enough time to get decent experience to speak to in interviews.

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    Sam Marbella

    I myself am trying to make a lateral move. I decided I wanted to go into banking my Junior year. I just graduated in May in the top of my class at a non-target school. I thought I wanted to be a corporate lawyer and decided not to after a few internships. My Junior year worked for a derivatives regulator for BBs and then had an internship at Oppenheimer in Investments my Senior year. On the side, I worked on my schools investment fund and was selected for a business honor program that worked with Fortune 500 companies as as advisors. Decided I loved the corporate exposure and client facing role from my internship/honors program that I decided to focus on pursuing a career in IB.

    I took the return offer for the regulator only because my mother had hip surgery and wasn’t working. Since I live in NYC, I had to pay rent while simultaneously helping the family out, I decided to take this job while searching for a junior analyst position in IB. All I am doing now is taking financial modeling classes and networking like crazy. Would you or anyone have any advice for my particular situation?

    1. I’m not sure you can do much more than what you’re already doing. Keep networking, and if it doesn’t work after 6-12 months, think about a top MSF program.

  17. Hi Brian,

    Does it make sense in lateraling if you plan to stay in banking for the long term and want more prestige and more competitive people to work with; move to a different group, or a new geography?

      1. How difficult is it to move from a lower tier BB / Elite boutique to GS/MS and maybe JPM? Or the relationship is everything?
        Also, I found it hard to understand why people move from prestigious banks that everyone knows of to no-name or few-people hedge fund/pe shop. I also found it hard to understand people move to corp dev, since it is less prestigious/being with a startup is risky?
        Does these moves justify the risk? Does being a banker give them more prestige or less prestige / pay? Are there any other routes other than HF/PE offer more prestige/pay? Thanks.

        1. I don’t know, not that difficult, but very dependent on timing and people leaving? Your other questions have been answered in the articles about exit opportunities, specific exit opportunities, and so on (also, “corporate development” could be at a Fortune 100 company, not a startup, so there isn’t much risk… not really sure what you’re asking there).

          Not everyone wants to pursue pay/prestige their entire lives. There are diminishing returns after a point. Also, you start to realize that most people in the world at large don’t even know the names of top finance firms and don’t care what you do.

  18. Many thanks for this article!

    I am planning to join a boutique investment bank, with five years experience in equity research, and move to a BB in one or two years.
    The problem is, at that time, I will be 33-34 years. Will my age be a huge disadvantage to apply for a BB then? Or I had better to revise my career plan?

    The boutique investment bank has good repuation at small-mid sized M&A market, and strong deal flows. However, I guess it might not be enough to knock the door of large PE funds.

    Thanks in advance.

    1. Your age is less of an issue than your work experience. With 5+ years, it gets difficult to move into IB at a large firm, especially if you’re aiming to join as an Associate rather than an Analyst.

      If you’re actually accepting an Investment Banking Analyst role at a boutique bank, you have some chance of moving to a larger firm in 1-2 years, but I don’t think it’s a great chance. Rather than focusing on PE, it might be better to consider your other, more likely options at that point, e.g. corporate development at a company in your industry focus.

  19. Hi Brian/ Nicole,

    I have been working at a relatively unknown Private Equity boutique (£750m) in London for 3 years (2 years as analyst and close to a year as an associate). The firm focuses on the commercial property and infrastructure sector rather than M&A (main differences are more documentation and cash flow/ project finance modelling). I joined the firm from a very small long/short equity hedge fund. I am wating to make the move to a mid-market M&A focused fund. I realize this is difficult but am determined to do what it takes to make the move (and have gone through all your material on the website). Do you think this realistic?

    1. It’s generally quite difficult to move from real estate/infrastructure to M&A because the skill sets are different, and once you specialize in a buy-side role, it’s harder to move out of the specialty. You could probably do it, but you need to act now rather than waiting or it will be increasingly difficult to move.

  20. Hi Brian,

    Sitting on an offer for a mid-market IB analyst role. To get into EB/BB IB analyst roles, which would you say is the best scenario: (a) one year at the mid-market firm followed by a lateral hire, (b) one year at the mid-market firm followed by a masters, or (c) a masters with a summer internship at the mid-market firm?

    Thanks in advance!

    1. A is probably the best bet because it tends to be easier to win lateral roles than it is to do a summer internship at a small bank and then move to a large bank (do a search for “accelerated recruiting”). It’s possible but quite difficult because it depends on many factors outside of your control. I don’t know why you would work at a middle-market bank for a year and then do a Master’s.

  21. Hi Brian/Nicole,

    Thanks so much for the article!

    I interned at RE IB at a In-Between-A-Bank in HK (where its RE IB is quite good) and got full-time return offer. I got on well with the team and had good intern exposure. And I think the compensation is comparable to BB as well in Asia. But I’m considering lateraling into GS/JP/MS after one year. I’m not rushing to move to mega PE funds, but I do want a more pure IB platform, prestige, better junior’s exposure and probably a more “general” industry group like consumer TMT.

    Do you think the above reasons can justify my motivation story to both recruiter and my boss at the current bank (so won’t burn the bridge) and the potential demotion ever makes sense?

    I’m currently a senior and want to make plans and preparation for the move as soon as possible. Is there anything particular about lateral hiring in HK that I should pay attention to and can prepare early?

    Thank you again very much!!!

    1. Not really, lateral hiring is not much different in HK. You could cite those reasons for your move, and you can win PE offers at large funds more easily if you work at one of those banks, but no matter what you say, people will be upset that you’re moving.

      1. Sure, understood. Thanks very much Brian!

  22. Hi Brian/Nicole,

    I will soon start an IB internship (that can become a full time offer later). I have two internship offer options here; Rabobank and Lincoln International.
    I wish to lateral to an EB/BB (DB, JPM, Jefferies, Rothschild, Moelis) in order to have better (PE) exit opportunities later on. Which one of Rabobank or Lincoln International will bring me higher chances of moving to a BB/EB in 1-2 years?

    Thanks, and happy new year!

    1. Probably Lincoln International because it’s better known for investment banking.

  23. Hi great article! Ive just finished my first year doing quantitative work at a regional investment firm and I am hoping to move to NYC or Chicago. Its not possible to move internally to those places. Ive seen a few job adverts by BB or similar online. I think some alumni might be working there but I dont know anyone personally. I think cold emailing alumni is the only thing I could try besides applying online since I couldnt find the specific recruiters from the job adverts. But if I do would it really better my chance? I found that people simply dont reply to that in my first job hunting. Any piece of advice? Thanks

    1. Yes, start emailing alumni and anyone else you can find. Do a search on this site for “cold email” or “email template” to find tips and examples.

  24. Hi Brian,

    I have been working at a regional boutique investment bank as an analyst since February (I got hired off cycle). I am thinking about making the move to an elite boutique or bulge bracket after I finish a year here.

    What time of the year do the bulge bracket/ elite boutique banks tend to perform interviews for new analysts and when should I start the process of reaching out/ applying to positions?


    1. It happens year-round. There is no real “best” time. Some people argue right after bonuses are awarded is the best time, but the problem is that the timing of that now varies among banks. Start reaching out as soon as you have at least 1-2 good deals to speak to in interviews. See:

  25. Hey Brian – quick question: I am in the middle of interviewing for an associate position at another bank. Since IB is such as small world, is there anyway that can prevent people from finding out about it?

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    Christina Gao

    So would lateral hiring be more easier if I am in a no-name buy-side boutique bank applying into a BB or a middle-market like Raymond James than going from a big-name company, like working as a Investment Analyst? Thank You.

    1. It’s always easier if you move from a small bank to a bigger bank than if you move from a normal company in a non-IB role to a bank.

  27. Hey

    Great and helpful article – been a fan of this website for years. Currently an M&A analyst in London (BB/elite boutique level) but want to move stateside (NYC preferably). Is it feasible to try and recruit laterally to the buyside from London to NYC (if I have the right to work in the US)? Additionally, as you know it’s typical to stick around in M&A for a bit longer in Europe and MBA’s aren’t as common – so I’m also wondering how older lateral M&A recruits from U.K./Europe are perceived by buyside recruiters in the US. Are 3rd year analysts / junior associates likely to be grouped in with MBA recruits or just grouped in with 1st year / 2nd year analysts going for buyside roles?


    1. It will be extremely difficult to do that (see:,, ) because most recruiting is regional. You are better off switching to the U.S. first and staying at the same bank or moving to a buy-side firm in London and then moving to NY.

      Also, the pace of PE recruiting in NY is insanely fast, and you have basically no chance unless you are at a top bank with a top university and near-perfect grades and you get looped into the on-cycle process very quickly. If you’re not in that category, you’ll have to go for off-cycle roles at smaller firms.

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    Would lateraling after 2 years (from boutique to BB) ever make any since from the perspective of eventually moving into the buy side? Given that most PE/HFs recruit a full year out, if you were to lateral into a BB after 2 years, starting as a 3rd year analyst – would you even have time to leverage a new BB title for the buyside interviews that would basically begin as soon as you move? Trying to understand how this would work from a timeline perspective for analysts who would end up doing 3 yrs in IB before moving to PE

    1. It might still make sense, but you would effectively have to join as a 2nd year analyst or get promoted to Associate before moving to a PE firm. In a lot of cases, larger banks won’t give you full credit for 2 years at a boutique bank anyway (a true regional boutique, not an elite boutique).

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        Thanks for the reply! Thinking about this process in terms of getting into a top MBA program (top 3-5) – what would you recommend as the best path forward? Trying to lateral into a BB, or continuing on into a MM PE/HF? Would brand name at a top IB help if long term goal is a top MBA program?

        1. First of all, you have about a ~5% chance of getting into a mega-fund even if you’re at a large bank. Many people at large banks don’t even get into PE at all! So I think you need to reset your expectations a bit and look at some of the recent coverage on this topic (see:,

          If your long-term goal is PE, you should move to a large bank as soon as possible. An MBA won’t help with anything. If you can’t move to a large bank, consider very small PE firms (i.e., smaller than middle-market) or roles in related fields like corporate development.

  29. Great article. I was hired at a lesser known boutique in Canada out of a top (Canadian) undergrad business school. I’m now a Senior Vice President and would like to lateral to a bulge bracket firm. Was thinking of doing my MBA now that I have 5 years experience and then recruiting for a position at a BB. Do BB’s hire VP’s out of top MBA programs? I would be willing to start as an associate, but I’m not sure if that perceived “demotion” would be frowned upon by a recruiter given my title. My situation is rather unconventional because I was hired out of undergrad as an associate (I interned first as an Analyst for two summers) and then was promoted to Senior VP after a year and a half. Thoughts?

    1. In most cases, no. I think business school would be a waste in your case – it’s better just to recruit directly at larger banks, even if you have to take a demotion.

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    Been a fan of the BIWS content and it helped me get my current job in London (been 2 years now). But now I’m considering a move because –
    a) there are not enough deals going around (worked on two sellsides in 2 years)
    b) moving to a BB (while the hours will be more gruelling) would give me more reps and exposure to wider products
    The hours at the current IBAB are very good and the pay at par with BBs.
    Do you think it is the right way to think about it? Also what are you thoughts on moving to another IBAB with a bit more deal flow and product suite..


    1. Yes, that is reasonable. If you can find another IBAB with more deal flow, that could be another good option. But there’s no point staying where you are if there’s no deal flow there.

  31. Great article. Wanted to ask a question about my personal situation. Currently 7 months in to my FT role at a BB in NYC doing a quantitative FO/MO rotational program but want to move to IB as its far more interesting and relevant to what I wanna do in the future. How do I sell mysel on knowing technical stuff (I’ve read a valuation book and did some internal bank trainings)? Also, how would you approach reaching out to bankers at the company, as I am still a very new hire?

    1. The best way to prove yourself is to submit actual models you’ve created for companies and say, “Here’s what I’ve done independently and how I can help your team.” I would just look up bankers via your internal system and send short notes asking to chat or meet up with people for coffee. Keep it very, very short and casual.

      1. Thanks for the advice. For showing people the models I’ve created, how do I know whether or not it will be respectable enough? I don’t want to show an experienced banker a Comp Analysis or DCF of mine only for them to laugh/think it’s rubbish. Also, do you have any recommendations on where to find a good case study that I could do to completion that would be impressive or thorough enough to show my worth?

        1. There are so many examples on this site and in our YouTube channel and in our courses… please do a search:

  32. Hi Brian

    I’m an undergraduate junior doing a bulge bracket IBD off cycle internship in NYC this winter. However, I would like to transition to a London or HK office in IBD for the summer. What should I be doing to make this move?


    1. The easiest solution is to win a return offer or convert the internship into a full-time offer, start working there, and then ask for a transfer. You could try to network with alumni and via LinkedIn to move to another bank in one of those locations, but summer recruiting has already finished up, so it will be tough at this stage.

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    I’m a new analyst in a product group at a non-BB and would like to jump to a bulge bracket bank in a coverage group in another location. I’m okay with starting as a new analyst again, but I don’t have a lot of contacts in the area I’m trying to move to. What are your thoughts on approaching the move?

    1. Go on LinkedIn, find people at the large banks elsewhere, and then email them to introduce yourself and ask to speak with them.

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    Hi Brian,

    Thank you for the article. I just have a quick question: I am considering between full-time analyst position at a boutique that is very strong within their sector but unknown beyond that, and management consulting at a 2nd tier top consulting firm (think Oliver Wyman/ATKearney/etc). Which position would position me better for lateral move to a top BB/elite boutique ?
    Thank you so much!

    1. Definitely the industry-specific boutique. You do NOT want to join a 2nd tier consulting firm, as it will be far more difficult to get into a bigger bank from there (or any bank at all).

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        Thank you so much Brian! I really appreciate it!

  35. Hi, I’m a first year analyst at a 2nd tier bank and am looking to lateral to BB. I was planning on waiting a year and then moving, but I see that a BB is looking for an analyst right now for the same group that I’m in. I think it would position me better for buy-side recruiting and give me a more recognizable name on my resume. My concern is that if I leave after a couple months, I’ll be burning bridges at work and with school alums who got me the job (my school has a close-knit alumni network). This could ripple into future opportunities, or the BB could position be so that I don’t need that network. Thoughts?

    1. I wouldn’t worry too much about that. As long as you don’t leave on the 2nd day of the job, or something similarly ridiculous, it’s not too unusual to leave a few months into it. It helps to stick around for at least a year, but it’s not a requirement.

  36. Hi Nicole,

    I am currently in a Corporate Finance FLDP Program. My pay is about 60K total. I recently received an offer from a boutique consulting firm as an valuation analyst (65K + 10% bonus). I am 25 years old right now, and my end goal is to work in IB.

    1). Do you think this job will help me land a IB gig later?
    2). How long should I stay with them until I make a move? assuming I am 25 years old now.


    1. 1) Yes, such a role would be helpful.

      2) Aim to stay there for around a year and then move into IB. Any longer than that, and it would be more difficult to come in as an Analyst.

  37. Hi! Thanks for this article.

    I’m currently a senior at a target school with a 3.8 GPA (although not sure how relevant GPA/school would be for lateral hiring). I was previous pre-med and just recently decided that I wanted to go into IB, so I have absolutely no prior finance experience. The only FT job offer that I have been able to land is at a very small, no-name M&A boutique (~10 people). At this point, it is probably my only opportunity to break into banking.

    My questions are:
    1) Do you think that I have any chance at being able to move laterally to a larger bank –MM/elite boutique or BB–about half a year into my job at the no-name boutique? I know that a good network would be essential, but since I’m just starting now, I don’t have much of a network besides a handful of friends who will be starting to work at BBs next year.

    2) If the opportunity to move laterally doesn’t present itself, what are your thoughts on trying to get into a business school and then moving to larger banks as an associate? Without a “brand-name” bank on my resume, I’m not sure how feasible it would be for me to get into a good business school though.


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      1) Yes. I think you have a decent chance.
      2) Yes this can most definitely help, and it may open you doors to other opportunities.

  38. I will complete an internship with my dream bank but not in my dream location. When I go to work full-time next year, how difficult is it to move to my dream location if it’s with the same bank?

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      M&I - Nicole

      It is hard to say regarding your chances, a lateral transfer is probably easier than moving to a different bank.

  39. Hi,
    Currently a rising senior at a non target in midwest
    3.3 gpa. originally started off with a pwm internship in NYC but then found a small boutique focused on emerging markets.
    Looking to go into go somewhere bigger for FT because I’m graduating in 2016.
    Some have said that I should defer my graduation until the winter of 2016 in order to get a SA position next summer.
    Thoughts ?

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      M&I - Nicole

      Yes this can help if you are over 50% sure you’ll be landing interviews at BB but this can be risky too. With the above being said deferring may give you more time and higher chance of breaking in so it is worth a thought.

  40. Hi Brain,

    I actually left a message here last year about picking offer. Currently I am working at a boutique M&A house (6 people), subsidary of an asset management (MM range), and I have been there for right about a year.

    Now ,I am looking for the move, but it looks the marker does not have any M&A role opening now, but lots of MM ECM/DCM roles. Should I turn to them or stick with M&A/Sector to wait for the chance ?

    Also, since we constantly worked with the asset management firm. Hence if I want to join in buyside from this way, i can make the shift easily.

    Many thanks,

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      M&I - Nicole

      If you like your current role, I may wait till you find an available M&A role before you move. It can be harder to move back into M&A after doing ECM/DCM, unless you transfer internally, because M&A arguably requires more analytical/valuation skills. However if a BB/elite ECM/DCM division gives you an offer, I may take it and try to transfer to M&A internally if this is your longer term goal. Otherwise I may wait till an available opening pops up first before you move.

  41. Thanks for this article, very helpful! Just wondering if you could speak about office transfers (from other regional office to NYC or another regional) after 1 year (at a BB) – how common that is, how to go about it, and how it will affect PE recruiting (would you still be set back a year for PE recruiting) Thanks!

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      M&I - Nicole

      Yes it is common to transfer from one office to another after a year or two at a BB. I’d say do well at your current role and make sure you network a lot internally. I don’t think this will affect PE recruiting since you’re still transferring internally, unless you’ve been “downgraded” or moved divisions.

  42. Brian – I am lateraling as a BB 2nd year analyst in credit to a 2nd year analyst position in a BB IB group. Will I essentially be a 2nd year in pay alone? Or will my 2nd year at the firm truly be my “3rd year” and last.

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      M&I - Nicole

      Yes if you’re lateral-ling as a 2nd year I believe your pay would be 2nd year pay.

      1. Thanks for the reply! In terms of pecking order and associate promotion consideration, would I basically be level with first years?

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          I’d say so but I’m not 100% sure because it depends on your firm’s policies and your performance.

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    I’m working as an Equity Research Associate at a boutique firm, and am looking to move to a bigger bank in the next few months, though I’d like to cover the same sector as I’m covering now. I’ve been at my current firm for about 14 months.

    My question is – In the interview, when they ask why I’m looking to switch jobs, while covering the same sector, what would be a good few reasons I could give?

    Thank you!!

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      M&I - Nicole

      I’d just say that while you love your current role, you’d love to move to a more established platform so you can [insert why i.e. more exposure to institutional investors etc] here. I think as long as you can demonstrate that you were stellar in your previous role and you just want to advance to a more challenging opportunity they wouldn’t be too difficult on you (re. why you want to move) since many people do that and this is pretty straightforward.

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        Thanks Nicole! You’re awesome:)

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        Nicole, another question along similar lines — if I say that i want to shift to a more established platform etc. (given that i’m coming from a boutique firm), a natural follow up could be that I can get that more established platform at any big firm. So if I’m interviewing at Morgan Stanley, they could ask why MS and why not GS, JPMC etc. What could I say to that?

        Also, if the analyst (I’m in ER) asks “why do you want to work for me”, it’s hard to answer bcoz as a sell-side analyst, you dont have access to other sell-side analyst notes, so you cant say that you like their methodology of analyzing stocks… what could be a few good reasons to give for the specific firm / analyst? Thanks again!!

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          M&I - Nicole

          You’ll need to research the firm and talk about specific aspects of the firm that interests you, more so than other firms. For instance, if MS is strong at XX platform or YY area, you can talk about that. You can also talk about how you’ve met the people at MS, and you instantly bonded with them, and how you think MS’ culture will fit you better.

          Even though you may not have access to their notes you maybe able to talk to your clients/your peers to find out about their views. And if something they’ve said (from what you’ve heard) strikes you as “interesting/different” you can bring that up. I also think its best to meet these analysts in person at events, etc so you can better understand their style. That way when you approach them for jobs etc you are at a better position.

  44. I took a job as an analyst at a hedge fund right out of school, been there a year. I’m not thinking I’d prefer to eventually get into PE. Is it possible to lateral to ibanking (I don’t mind being a first-year) without going to b school?

  45. Hi,

    I am a new associate in the M&A group at a decent bank (think Wells Fargo, Jefferies) and would like to jump to a bulge bracket bank as an Associate 2. I have a decent network in place at a few BB banks but am curious if I would be forced to lose a year if I were to move laterally. Also, given that interest in banking is not as hot as it once was, are my chances better than you suggested above?

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      M&I - Nicole

      It depends on the bank. Some banks may do that but others may not depending on your negotiation skills and their hiring needs. I can’t comment on your chances not having worked with you on this forum.

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