How to Turn Cold Calls Warm, Follow-Up and Avoid Awkward Alumni Conversations
Ok, Kevin and I received a ton of great questions from everyone over the past few weeks on networking.
We finally had a chance to sit down and record this Q&A session the other day.
One small problem: it turned out to be so long that we split it up into two parts (I know, I know, you really wanted to listen to 2 hours straight of networking banter, right?).
Here’s Part 1:
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Here’s a quick summary of the questions we cover within:
Finding Names and Contact Information
Quite a few readers asked about how to find names and contact information in the first place – here are a few questions we address:
“How about for people who do not know consultants or even finance people? How do you build those names and meet those people in the first place?”
“How would you approach making contact with complete strangers at different firms that you are interested in?”
Recession Recruiting
Aside from making it way harder to actually find a job in the first place, the recession has also pushed senior bankers out and to different firms – which can complicate your networking efforts.
“What is the next best step for recruiting in a firm when your only contact within the firm found out you will be laid off before you are ready to utilize him to break into the company?”
“Do you have any tips on getting in touch with former senior colleagues?”
Turning Cold Calls Into Warm Calls
There were dozens of questions on cold calls, but they all boil down to the same basic question: How do you successfully cold-call banks? Here’s what we discuss:
“I was wondering what the dos and don’ts for cold calling are in general? On the outline it appears to have great potential. Most of my colleagues however discard cold calling outright. Is it a strategy you would recommend?”
Following-Up with Your Contacts
Once you’ve contacted your alumni, made your cold-calls, and met industry contacts anywhere else, how do you properly follow-up and win interviews and then offers? Here’s what we answer:
“If you’ve done a lot of cold calling with several different firms, how do you exactly followup after the initial call?”
“Is there any way to keep in touch with senior partners even if you don’t have a reason why to follow-up and instead you just want to keep in contact?”
“Also if you could please talk about how can they follow-up after an MD or analyst showed interest in their resume”
“Over time, as you contact alumni, the numbers will accumulate. How would one go about maintaining these contacts before recruiting season and then when the time comes, how do you make the ask?”
“After meeting someone whom I would like to network with at a networking event, what is the appropriate follow-up? What is a good way to keep in touch?”
“When the time comes, how do you make the ask for opportunities to interview?”
Awkward Alumni
Some readers are still struggling with contacting alumni and sounding natural. Hint: pretend you’re speaking with a friend, and avoid focusing on work-related topics.
“I contacted some alumni in the past with a phone conversations that eventually became Q&A, it felt very awkward and a little bit dry. If you had mentees contacting you in the past, how would you suggest making the conversation more interesting, getting to know them personally and even establishing a friendship. What kind of mentees are mentors looking for and what’s their incentive as a mentor for sharing information with someone who they don’t know?”
Next up will be Part 2, where we cover how to network while abroad, move to different groups, develop relationships during your internship, and address some finance and consulting-specific topics.
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Since summer recruiting is over for most banks, what would be a good mini-ask for a conversation with an alumni at a BB bank? I go to a non-target but was able to get a call through an honors program we both are a part of.
I would speak with him/her re. your passion in the industry, ask him/her for their thoughts on the industry and advice, and ask him/her to keep you in mind of any upcoming opportunities etc. I wouldn’t push it too much at first because you haven’t established a connection with him/her
Thanks for the reply. I also have a chance to meet live with a VP at a boutique after having a informational interview that went well. What would be the best way to make a mini-ask for a possible internship with their bank even if I will be willing to do it unpaid?
If you’re younger and want to use this strategy, I would state this upfront (“I wanted to ask about unpaid summer intern openings…”) only if you’re going for the tiny, no-name, 3-4 person firms. Even most “boutique,” middle-market, and other, smaller banks have formal recruiting processes in place and will not be receptive to this approach – so I’d save it for an objection rebuttal if it comes up. http://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/unpaid-finance-internships-jobs/
Hi,
I have applied for some Hedge Fund jobs through online job postings, but have not heard back from the firms. It has been about 4 weeks since I applied (which basically only included submitting my resume through online job portals or my school’s job board).
I wanted to follow up on my applications. Is it a good idea to email the firms, or should I forget the email & straightaway call them up?
Also, can you give a template of the email I should use.
Thanks,
Sg!
I don’t think you’d get much from emailing/calling these firms because you haven’t personally developed a relationship with the people there. If you have, then I’d email that specific person and follow up. No we don’t have an email template for that.
Thanks Nicole,
I haven’t developed a relationship with people at these firms, but now that I have applied, I wanted to follow up instead of just letting my application die away. Between emailing & calling, what would you choose, and how would you go about structuring the email / conversation? Thanks!
If you haven’t developed a relationship with people at these firms, I believe it will be more difficult to follow up to be honest. I’d suggest calling HR rather than emailing them because its not likely that they will respond to your email. You may find this article http://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/cold-calling-investment-banking/ useful. Just be concise and straightforward, and ask if there’s any way you can increase your chances going forward