Lateraling To Another Investment Bank? Look Before You Leap
“I’m in the Credit Suisse Tech M&A Group currently but I heard that Goldman TMT is way better and that everyone who works there aces their private equity interviews and gets offers at KKR and Blackstone. How can I transition over to a much better group/bank?”
Every week I get questions like the one above. And my reply is usually the same: don’t bother. In most cases, lateraling is a waste of time and effort. But around the end of their first years in finance, young investment banking analysts everywhere think about making the move.
Bulge Bracket to Bulge Bracket
It doesn’t make a difference whether you’re at Morgan Stanley or JPMorgan; you’ll have access to the same set of recruiters at any bulge bracket.
You could argue that some groups/offices are “better” (like the former UBS LA) and that it’s therefore better to work for the more “prestigious” offices, but it’s still a lot of effort for a marginal gain if you’re going from large bank to large bank.
Reasons to Make the Move
If you can’t stand your investment banking group and want nothing more than to end your misery in a violent way every morning when you wake up, then you might have an actual good reason to make a lateral move to another bank.
Even in this scenario, though, you should confirm there’s nothing you can do to improve your situation – like switching teams or groups – before you decide to swing through the jungle of finance to another bank.
Another reason might be if your bank is collapsing, or your group is collapsing and everyone else is switching banks anyway; in that case you don’t really have any choice.
Issues To Consider First
If you make a lateral move you’ll have to start over at another bank, both literally and figuratively.
Depending on the banks involved, you may be forced to start over as a 1st year Analyst. This “demotion” is more common going from a smaller bank to a larger bank, but the real issue is not the demotion – it’s the loss of time in the recruiting process.
Since private equity firms and hedge funds conduct interviews a year in advance of start dates, you will have to stay in banking for 3 years rather than 2 if you switch to another bank. If you’re a masochist you might want this or you might be fine with it, but most people making the switch don’t realize this and are horrified when it hits them.
In addition to the harm done in terms of recruiting, you’ll also have to build “mind share” with senior bankers once again and prove yourself capable so that you work on deals rather than pitchbooks.
Boutique Or Middle Market To Bulge Bracket
This is the only lateral move that makes sense. While you can get good experience at a smaller bank, you will have better access to recruiters and exit opportunities at bulge brackets.
So if you ended up at a boutique or middle market firm due to economic conditions, because you came into the recruiting process late, or because you made a career change long after graduation, going to a bulge bracket may be a good move.
Just make sure you really want to stay in finance for the long-term. Otherwise, it’s a waste of time and effort because having Goldman Sachs on your resume vs. Piper Jaffray isn’t going to do much for you if you move back home to help out with the family business.
But You Should Still Think Twice
Even if you’re 100% convinced that you should move to another investment bank, I would still urge you to think twice before you do it. Make sure all of the following are true before jumping over to the other side:
- You are willing to be an investment banking analyst for 3 years rather than the standard 2.
- You are 100% certain you want to stay in finance for at least another 10 years.
- If you have a team conflict or can’t stand your current group, there’s nothing that can be done to remedy that at your current bank.
Be Wary Of Headhunters
Recruiters are always looking to make lateral moves happen because they get a commission if they get you to move somewhere else.
So if they’ve told you that the other group you’re considering moving to has Aeron chairs made of gold, exit opportunities beyond your wildest expectations, and yes, even a daily allowance for models and bottles, you should be careful:
Sure, if you’re interested in moving anyway and you have some good recruiter contacts who can make it happen, go ahead and use them. But if they’re pitching you on moving from Goldman to Morgan or on moving from Gleacher to Revolution Partners, there’s probably something you don’t know.
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Ikemen: very interesting list. I’ve seen variations of it before. I’m not into ranking banks/people too much, but it’s interesting to see just how much all these guys make.
You mention here what one should consider before making the move, but you don’t mention how to go about doing it. BB to BB — headhunters or networking? Do banks have recruiters who only deal with laterals at the analyst/associate level? If so, how do you find them and submit your resume? Would you mind explaining how this is actually done and how it can be done without being “caught” by the group you currently work for?
You can really do either – I would only go through a headhunter if you don’t know anyone at the bank you’re moving to. Most of my friends who have lateraled have done it via networking since they knew people wherever they were moving.
There are no lateral-specific recruiters at banks – recruiters handle everyone, whether new hire out of college or lateral from elsewhere. They don’t openly advertise their contact information, so best to go through a friend or headhunter.
In terms of not being “caught,” there’s always a risk, but the best advice I can give is to avoid telling anyone at your current bank what you’re doing. No matter how much you think you trust them, don’t say anything because it WILL get out. If no one at your current bank knows, there’s not much risk.
To avoid being “caught” and regarding the confidentality issue, should one apply with the presently employer firm name blanked / crossed out?
How should one apply? …The normal way, with the present employer firm name shown?
You have to leave in your current name or no one will take you seriously – just make sure the distribution is not too wide.
M&I, isn’t it logical to make the lateral move to a better group at a better bank, even though they are all BBs, so that one can get a much better chance to land a pre-MBA PE job? Or are you saying that one will have equal chances for the exit ops working at any BB groups?
I’m saying that:
1) It makes a marginal difference at best what your pre-MBA PE job was. Business schools put everyone from finance in the same category.
2) Your chances from different BB groups are not significantly different – not enough to actually make the jump in 90% of cases (exceptions may apply depending on how bad your current group is).
Just wondering if you had any color on what is the actual process after securing a lateral offer?
There’s not much to it… you decide on a start date, and then leave your bank and move to another one. Sometimes they give you a week or two of vacation in between.
Would it be worthwhile then to lateral from a decent MM place to a BB solely for the improved exit options? Especially if you like your team at your current firm and are happy there? Reading this article it seems your answer would be no but I want to get a good buy side job eventually and it seems that all the good HFs and PE funds seem to only recruit from BBs. Any thoughts would be welcome.
Cheers.
If you want to move to a top PE/HF then yes it’s worth it. If you value your work environment, co-workers, and maintaining your sanity over brand-name, though, probably not.
Similar question.
I work at a very top mm shop in m&a. I am not interested in working at a mega fund. I would like to work at a mm pe fund pre-mba. I am not very interested in hedge funds (at least not yet). I actually use to be very interested in strategy consulting but I felt like banking would be a better quantitative base. So far, thus is true, though I would like to be more strategy components of a deal. Someday I would like to have a balance between money, life, family.
Could you advise me on my options? Stay or lateral to BB?, Stay and recruit for mm pe? (is that even possible, or would lower BB take all the spots?) ….. be a ski bum?
I would say just go for the MM PE shops right now… no reason to move to a large bank unless you want to go to a mega-fund. You can easily get access to recruiters via friends, contact them yourself, etc. and if they are impressed they can help.