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Banker vs. Consultant: Why the Banker Wins with a Knockout in Round 1

“What’s missing from your resume is a focus on the results… I see all your recommendations and the projects you worked on, but I don’t see what happened as a result of your work.”

-McKinsey Recruiter to Me, 3 Years Ago

Some of you have asked about consulting (as in management consulting, not IT consulting - who in their right mind would do that?) vs. investment banking and which is “better” to pursue.

I’ve done both, but I worked in banking for much longer than I worked in consulting - so I am biased.

As we’ll see, the quote above shows why I didn’t go back to consulting and why I always recommend finance to anyone in “What should I do with my life?” mode.

The Myth: Bankers vs. Consultants Video

On the day the infamous Leveraged Sellout video was released, I received about 10 forwards from readers and friends, so I’m guessing almost everyone has seen it by now.

But just in case you haven’t, here it is again for good measure:

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Although it’s fiction, the video does a surprisingly good job of summarizing the bankers vs. consultants debate.

“Be a Burnout Banker, Teaching Math at My Prep School”

There’s a lot of burnout in both fields.  My management consultant friend almost quit after he had to work 14 hours on his birthday once.  True, consultants get uninterrupted weekends… sometimes… but regardless of whether you’re a banker or consultant, you’re going to work a lot.

To imagine the schedule of a consultant, just take my Week in the Life series and add traveling to Idaho at the beginning of the week and coming back at the end of the week.  Also delete all references to quantitative work and replace them with finger-painting.

“Nothing but Grunt Work”

Not quite.  

There’s a lot of grunt work in both industries.  In banking, it’s more quantitative and no one cares about offering “strategic insight” and putting things in quadrants - they just care what the Pro Forma EPS is.

“Make a Really Significant Impact and Get Home by 7:15″

I know of no consultants who get home by 7:15.  One of my friends is an IT Consultant and even he doesn’t get home by 7:15.

So far, banking and consulting might seem similar… but let’s take a look at the first part of this claim - “Make a Really Significant Impact.”

Despite what the consultant argues, bankers typically make far more of an impact than consultants.  True, some transactions fall apart, but when they happen you get a new public company or a new conglomerate.

By contrast, you never know if the recommendations consultants make will be implemented.  

Got results?

“Mining for Gold out in Saskatchewan”

“Business travel” sounds cool to people who haven’t traveled much before, but it’s less appealing when you’re flying to Saskatchewan every week in February.  Consultants are always on the road, and while bankers do travel occasionally, it is much less of a burden.

It’s fun to live in another country for an extended period, but it’s much less fun to travel back and forth every single week.

Plus, even if you are stationed in Saskatchewan you probably won’t discover any gold.

“You Try to Add Value… I Straight Create It”

At the junior level, no banker or consultant “creates value” and they rarely even “add value.”  Senior bankers who negotiate on their clients’ behalf can sometimes “add value” by getting the buyer to pay more, but even that is rare.

Both banks and consulting firms are in the business of giving advice: advice on what to do financially and what to do operationally.  Companies actually “create value.”

“House in the Hamptons and a Penthouse Loft”

Even at the market peak in mid-2007, 1st Year Analysts made only $150K ($60K base + $90K bonus).  While that’s a lot of money for someone fresh out of school, it’s certainly not enough for a house in the Hamptons and a penthouse loft - especially after taxes.

Bankers do make more than consultants, but it will take quite some time to turn yourself into Gordon Gekko.

“But You Still Can’t Buy Bottles with Starwood Points”

True.

Consultants make a fraction of bankers’ bonuses - firms are notoriously secretive about exact numbers, but even in good times a $10K bonus isn’t unreasonable for consultants.

You could argue that they work a lot less and therefore make about the same hourly wage, but I’m not convinced.  Sure, you won’t pull consistent 100-hour weeks in consulting, but it’s a lot more than 9-5, especially when you take into account the travel.

And even if it is more per hour, good luck having enough for bottles, let alone models.

“Take This Mouse and Get Back to Making $60K a Year”

Most consultants make more than $60K, but not by much.

However, they definitely don’t know how to use Excel properly - just ask that consultant we hired after I unplugged his mouse and he almost fainted.

The Consultant Formerly Known as Banker

One year, we hired a summer intern who was pretty good as far as investment banking interns go.  He didn’t do anything stupid, he always smiled, and he even bought us drinks.  But he “couldn’t take the hours” and he went to consulting full-time instead, in search of that elusive “work-life balance.”

I spoke with him the other day and he said the hours were pretty bad and he was being dragged around between 3 continents on clients’ whims - in other words, it was actually worse than banking, and he was getting paid less.

Damn, It Feels Good to Be a… Consultant?!

I didn’t continue with consulting because:

  1. I hated constant travel.
  2. I wanted to get tangible results rather than making “strategic recommendations” to management.
  3. Oh yeah, I couldn’t tolerate making $60K a year.  Even $70K is pushing it.

That said, you may still want to consider consulting if your original plan was finance:

  1. Consulting is diversified in different industries, so the financial chaos won’t hit it quite as hard.
  2. No consulting firms have subprime anything on their balance sheets.
  3. You might still sneak into PE if you get lucky.  Golden Gate Capital, for example, hires most of its Associates from Bain Consulting.  

Rebuttal?

If you’re a consultant who now feels angered, feel free to write in with a rebuttal and I’ll publish some of the most entertaining responses.  Make sure you also enclose some of those Starwood points.

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37 Comments »

Comment by Milos

Excellent, as always! Management consulting is by far the dullest job I can imagine. (I’m not a banker, whatsoever)

Cheers

 
Comment by Yuva

would agree…

 
Comment by gboi

it would be nice to have a comparison on the mba level where consultants are making a “living wage”.

Comment by Inquisitor

Even at the MBA level, consultants don’t make too much - base salaries might be $100-$120K with small ($20-30K) bonuses. Associate bankers, by contrast, would probably be pulling at least $200-300K, and it only goes up from there.

Comment by gboi

but is it possible to start or have a relationship as a banker? it seems difficult but possible as a consultant since you should get most of your weekends, but as a banker, it seems like you get no weekends whatsoever. unless of course, you dip the pen in company ink–which seems like a bad idea in general, especially in an industry were you spend so much time with your coworkers.

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Comment by Inquisitor

It’s hard to start a relationship in either one. That’s one of the reasons I left. :)

 
 
 
 
Comment by IB'er

Any one else feel like the guys in that video sound like total douche bags/ nerds ?

Comment by Inquisitor

Yeah, but it’s still better than AJ from the Models and Bottles video…

 
 

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Comment by Tiger2010

Inquisitor, how do you feel about BigLaw? Is that a viable option in this market?

Comment by Inquisitor

BigLaw is getting hurt by the recession quite a bit as well. A friend of mine at MoFo (Morrison & Foerster) said there were a bunch of layoffs there recently.

As with consulting, it’s less affected by the economy than banking/finance is… but given that it takes 3 years of school to get into, it’s a less viable option for most people.

 
 
Comment by Tommy

how would you compare the lifestyles, exit opps, and pay IN GENERAL of BBs in LA, SF, and in NY?

thanks

Comment by Inquisitor

NY is generally best. For LA and SF lifestyle may be a bit better but you will be more limited to buy-side firms on the West Coast rather than NY + rest of country. Pay is about the same at major banks regardless of where you are, but obviously smaller regional places pay a lot less.

 
 
Comment by analyst 3

I think consulting at the big 3 (McK, BCG, Bain) may be tougher to get into just because there are fewer firms than there are bulge brack banks–well at least before the recent fallout. My sense is that they hire almost exclusively from Ivy League/target schools, so there seems to be some cache to spending some time at these big 3 firms. In that regard I think if you look at exit ops beyond LBO firms such as VC and Corp Dev/Strategy, while BB analyst might have a little extra coin in their pocket, your long-term earning potential is similar. (Who knows if you’ll even have extra coin in your pocket after “having to” spend on models & bottles to blow off steam after your 100 hour week.) So yes, I agree that investment banking may give you a better core financial modeling toolbox after doing time as an analyst, but it terms of looking at the wider range of opportunities, it seems consulting vs. banking is roughly similar.

Comment by Inquisitor

True, although I do think the only thing that beats finance in terms of long-term earnings potential is entrepreneurship, but I would argue both consulting and banking are extremely poor preparation for that (having done all 3 in my life so far).

Comment by analyst 3

In any situation where you own substantial equity in a successful company, your earning power is greatest–that could be as an entrepreneur or as an investor. Those positions also carry the most risk, but also offer the potential for great reward. Acting as a 3rd party advisor (whether advisor or consultant) your earning power is going to be limited by the structure of your role since someone else is writing your paycheck. That said, I think it’s still possible to be entrepreurial within a field, i.e. opening your own firm.

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Comment by Inquisitor

Oh no need to remind me of that one. I’m well-acquainted with the Cash Flow Quadrant. :)

 
 
 
 
Comment by Ashwin

When you were a banker, could you handle the hours?
Is it tolerable for an average person?

Comment by Inquisitor

I could handle the hours, but I frequently pulled all-nighters from middle school onward. I still only sleep an average of 2 hours a night.

The average person cannot handle it.

 
 
Comment by TJ

Are you an insomniac or something?

Comment by Inquisitor

Yeah, pretty much.

Comment by IB'er

So are there any healthy/ normal people in banking?

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Comment by Inquisitor

Not really, no. Maybe a few, but most of the bankers I came across have been deranged in some form or another.

 
Comment by IB'er

If you’re being serious, this is quite sad. You should put up this warning somewhere on your site. LOL.

 
Comment by Inquisitor

There already is a warning - see my Day in Life / Week in Life articles.

 
Comment by Horus

It seems to me like if you want to make a lot of money in this world, you have to be mentally ill in some way. Normal people wash out and go back to 9-5 normal people world.

Law seems to attract people with mood disorders, leading to high alcoholism (self-medication) rates. A hystrionic personality is an asset in a courtroom. (I thought it was totally appropriate that Tom Wilkinson’s character in “Michael Clayton” had bipolar disorder.)

Finance seems to attract people with narcissistic personalities. Think Bateman.

Software (which can be very lucrative for those who are sufficently ill) favors those who fall on the Asperger’s/autism gradient.

Our Maker, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to give everyone equal ability. However the proportion of ability within each person is not the same, and those who are wunderkinder along some axis can make a lot of money if they nurture their malady. The tradeoff is a life of loneliness and alienation.

 
Comment by Inquisitor

That’s kind of depressing. I do well while still having a life and great family/friends… internet business is the way to go. :)

 
 
 
 
Comment by jd

Does the transition from a middle of the road consulting firm to PE or VC happen much? I am looking at some firms like Deloitte, IBM, and CRA and am wondering about the best way to get to PE is as the ibanking route isn’t possible for me.

Comment by Inquisitor

See Dan’s response below - it seems unlikely. I would say b-school may be a better bet for you.

 
 
Comment by Dan

I’m at a 2nd tier consulting firm (i.e. booz, monitor, mercer) and I completely agree with this analysis. It was a terrible mistake to turn down my BB IBD offer for this job. We have crappy work life balance once you include travel (I can’t even join a gym in NYC because I have to travel so much), the pay sucks, and the worst part is that I don’t get the financial valuation skillset that all the PE and HF firms want.

If you have your mind set on consulting, go to a top tier firm (McK, BCG, Bain). Otherwise, it’s incredibly difficult to move onto a PE/HF firm and your only “good” option is to go to grad school.

Comment by Inquisitor

Straight from the source, ladies and gentlemen…

 
Comment by brian

i thought Booz was “top-tier.” are they not?

Comment by Inquisitor

Usually McKinsey, Bain and BCG (MBB) are considered “top-tier.”

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Comment by Shane

I am amazed you went as far as to break down the satire that is leveraged sellout. As alway, M&I, you always seems to amaze me.

How’s the entrepreneurship going? Glad to be out of the banking world pre-the near collapse?

Comment by Inquisitor

Thanks.

Yeah, things are going well. Think my timing was definitely good, though I wasn’t planning to continue with banking anyway even back when things were good.

It’s definitely a different kind of stress - it’s less about getting 100 orders a second from an annoying VP and more about being self-motivated and getting stuff done with no external pressure. But I’m having a lot of fun so far, so we’ll see what happens.

 
 
Comment by U-grad

Why do many students from target schools choose consulting? Going by this analysis, it seems that consulting has nearly the same hours as i-banking, but inferior pay and training.

Or is consulting seen as a pathway to something better, like the VC and Corporate Dev/Strategy positions analyst 3 mentioned, with few people sticking with a firm for long? Post MBA, I cannot understand why anyone would choose to work for ~$120k rather than ~$250k.

Is choosing consulting the result of misinformation/good recruiting, or am I missing a major aspect of consulting’s appeal?

Comment by Inquisitor

Some would argue you that it gives you a broader set of options with fewer hours… although I don’t really think that’s true. A lot of liberal arts majors also think they can do consulting but not banking since it involves less math.

 
 
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