After last week’s Bear Stearns debacle, it seems that readers took my advice and hedged their offers appropriately, shopping them around and focusing on boutiques in particular.

While this is a great strategy for reducing risk, it carries with it an additional challenge: how to decide on an uncertain offer vs. a certain but “lesser” offer.

Meanwhile, the usual questions on how investment bankers read resumes and whether advanced degrees are actually useful continue to come in.

Hedging Your Bear Stearns Summer Offer

“I got a summer internship offer with Bear Stearns during recruiting season this year. I was nervous about what would happen, so I started hedging my offer and talking to smaller firms and received a summer analyst offer with a regional bank.

Although the internship is unpaid, the office does have good dealflow and has a decent record of sending summer interns to bigger banks.

I still technically have an offer with Bear Stearns, so is there any way I can try to postpone a decision here and wait to see what happens with Bear? It’s not that I don’t want to work at the boutique, but all else being equal, I’d rather get paid a decent amount for the summer rather than earning nothing.”

Inquisitor:

First off, in general I wouldn’t be too concerned about the pay. You should be much more concerned over having an internship at all vs. not having one! Making $12K in one summer sounds nice but in the long run it’s not that much money, especially if you go into finance eventually. With internships you always want to be more focused on the experience rather than the pay.

It’s difficult to postpone your offer decision because they’ll know what you’re doing. So I don’t know how far you can push back the timing here.

It seems likely that at least some Bear Stearns offers will be honored, but I would lean toward going with the smaller bank and be assured of actually getting a banking summer internship rather than having it fall through.

Normally I tell people to avoid boutiques and smaller firms if possible, but it’s a bit different here because:

  1. It’s just a summer internship, so it’s not as relevant for future opportunities as the bank where you’re a full-time analyst will be.
  2. There is a chance that Bear summer offers will fall through (again, no one knows for sure) and it’s better to have an internship 100% rather than have the chance of losing one, especially at this late stage.

Who Really Reads Resumes?

“I understand that the people who read investment banking resumes are usually analysts who went to the school in question. However, are they usually recent graduates, or have been analysts for a couple years?

For example, if I send my resume in through on-campus-recruiting in Fall 2008, will it likely be reviewed by someone who graduated in 2008, or graduated in 2007 and been in the industry for at least a year?”

Inquisitor:

Analysts at all levels will review resumes - even back when I started a few years ago, I was reviewing resumes a couple months into the job and making interview decisions. Sometimes it’s actually 1st Year Analysts who do the bulk of resume reading since it’s a task that 2nd/3rd year Analysts tend not to want.

It may sound interesting to determine peoples’ fate and who gets interviews based on resumes, but it gets tiring when you have to read hundreds and only have 30 seconds to spend on each one. Reviewing resumes and helping people improve them is much more fun. :)

It may seem haphazard to allow recent hires to make interview decisions, but you don’t need a lot of deal experience to make interview decisions - you just need recruiting experience.

The Value Of A Master’s Degree

“I’m currently a non-business undergrad looking to get into trading. I graduate in one semester and have been trying to get a summer job at banks, but my best shot may have just imploded with Bear Stearns’ collapse. They probably have no time to worry about interviewing people at this point, even those who made it to final rounds.

If that happens and it falls through, I would be left with no internship and no other offers, giving me almost no shot of getting into finance.

Getting an MBA seems worthless post-graduation since only lower tier schools would even consider someone with no work experience. However, I was thinking a Master’s Degree in Finance or related major could serve as a segway into a finance career. I’m considering such a program at a well-known undergraduate business school currently - do you think this is my best option for getting into finance?”

Inquisitor:

As you said, it would definitely be a mistake to get an MBA without work experience first; it won’t help you get into finance at all if you go to a lower-tier school.

The Master’s program you mention will not give you a significant advantage; although it is at a good school, it’s not equivalent to an MBA.

The main advantage it would give you is time - you would have more time to find jobs because you could take advantage of the full-time recruiting cycle in the fall.

Before doing this, you should check on how many banks recruit there in the fall and how many people get jobs at banks via that program.

But if you don’t have an internship or full-time offer lined up currently, the Master’s program is probably your best option.

As the economy worsens and hiring slows down even more, I suspect more people will make this same decision and head back to school.

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Comment by BS
2008-03-29 00:53:40

Thanks for the insight on hedging the summer offers. How about full time offers? Does the logic differ because 2 year contracts have been signed and no ‘official’ word is known yet? Also, going by earlier advice, and common sense, the smaller firms one might consider shouldnt know of the full time contract with Bear, but what good excuse can one give for not applying earlier, especially if one received their full time offer after an internship?

Comment by Inquisitor
2008-03-29 10:53:30

BS: As you’ve pointed out, it’s harder to do this with full-time offers because it is so late in the process. Pretty much all FT recruiting is done now and even at smaller firms/boutiques it will be difficult to get offers.

That said, I think it is worthwhile to hedge even here and look into boutiques that may still be hiring.

As far as an excuse to use, it would be difficult to come up with one if you’ve had a banking internship… if the internship was at Bear, I think it might be better just to tell the bank your FT offer was revoked/is not being honored due to the disaster at Bear.

If you did not have a banking internship, you can always just say the usual about poor market/hiring conditions and still being on the search for a job… plenty of people I know are in that position.

Comment by BS
2008-03-29 11:02:56

Thank you for the speedy reply.. it is difficult to come up with a reason because the summer internship was with Bear. I’ll be trying to harden my conscience to be able to use ur advice… And I wanted to make sure that, pretty much, there arent any other viable options out there…thank you again!

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Comment by Inquisitor
2008-03-29 16:24:43

Sure thing. Yeah, if you had a previous summer internship with Bear I think it might be better just to go with the truth or a close version of the truth because it’s going to look highly suspicious if you make up some other story… they know what’s going on, and there’s no shame in saying that because of the situation there, you’ve had to look elsewhere.

 
 
 
 
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